Jump to content

Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board

Edit links
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Wikipedia:AWNB)

Shortcut
Australian Wikipedians' notice board

Portal | Project | Board | Alerts | Deletions | To-Do | Category | Related | Help


    WikiProjects edit | watch
    In the news edit | watch
    Read and edit Wikinews


    7 April 2025 – Tariffs in the second Trump administration, Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump
    The Nikkei 225, SSE Composite Index, and Hang Seng Index experience substantial losses following Friday’s losses on the New York Stock Exchange as a result of U.S. president Donald Trump's tariffs. European markets also decline, particularly in banking and defense sectors. The ASX 200 in Australia and the Kospi in South Korea also closes lower. (BBC News)
    2 April 2025 – Tariffs in the second Trump administration
    In the 10% tariff, the U.S. lists the Australian territory of Heard Island and McDonald Islands near Antarctica, despite the fact that it has no human inhabitants, imports or exports. In response to finding these islands in the list, Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese commented that "Nowhere on earth is safe" for the tariff. (The Guardian)
    31 March 2025 – Australia–North Korea relations
    The Royal Australian Air Force deploys a long-range maritime patrol aircraft P-8 Poseidon to Kadena Air Base in Okinawa Prefecture, Japan, to monitor North Korean maritime activities in the Yellow Sea, including weapons shipments prohibited under international sanctions. (NK News)
    8 March 2025 – 2024–25 Australian region cyclone season
    Cyclone Alfred
    One person is confirmed killed and thirteen others are injured in floods caused by Cyclone Alfred as it passes through Queensland and New South Wales, Australia. (AP)
    5 March 2025 – 2024–25 Australian region cyclone season
    Tropical Cyclone Alfred


    More Australian current events
    See also: Current events on Wikinews
    Categories edit | watch
    On this day in Australia edit | watch

    Australia · Arts · Architecture · Cities · Communications · Culture · Economy · Education · Environment · Geography · Government · Healthcare · History · Law · Language · Lists · Media · Military · Music · Organisations · People · Politics · Religion · Science · Society · Sport · Subdivisions · Transport · Tourism

    Australian states and territories · Australian Capital Territory · New South Wales · Northern Territory · Queensland · South Australia · Tasmania · Victoria · Western Australia

    Capital cities · Adelaide · Brisbane · Canberra · Darwin · Hobart · Melbourne · Perth · Sydney

    Australia stubs · AFL stubs · Geography stubs · Government stubs · Law stubs · People stubs · Paralympic medalists stubs · Television stubs

    11 April:

    Bert Hinkler
    Bert Hinkler


    To-Do edit | watch
    Announcements edit | watch

    Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:

    Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Oral health in Australia · Pop music in Australia · Sculpture of Australia

    Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia

    Images requested · Bali Nine · Cheryl Kernot · Fire of Australia opal · Poppy King · James Moore · MV Pacific Adventurer · Neil the Seal · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues

    Verification needed · 2003 Canberra bushfires · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Norfolk Air · Punk rock in Australia

    Quality watch:

    Tom Tate needs considerable work

    [edit]

    Hi there, I have stumbled upon the Mayor of the Gold Coast's wikipedia, and I feel that it needs a lot of work. There are a number of unsupported claims, and some of the edit history seems suspect in my opinion. Any help would be appreciated. Nauseous Man (talk) 07:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Yeah, to say this page has issues would be an understatement... I'll see what I can do. It also looks like a lot of information was removed by this biased editor as well. Viatori (talk) Viatori (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Groan. The Crime and Corruption Commission become weaponised a few years back. Because the complaints were make public, it became a great way to make an untrue claim about someone, and then use its status as being investigated by the commission as a "media story" e.g. "CCC investigates corruption by Whoever". When eventually investigated, most of these complaints were never substantiated and no adverse findings were made, but of course "nothing happened" doesn't get into the media as a story. The CCC were being flooded with these complaints particularly during election campaigns and suspected most of them were just abuses of the process. See what the CCC said about them. It wasn't just Tom Tate that it happened to but many other politicians. Given that, I don't think we should include any CCC "investigations" in any bios, as "reliable sources", only actual findings of something significant. Kerry (talk) 04:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Monique Ryan: Requesting input on a Talk Discussion

    [edit]

    Requesting input on a content dispute at Talk:Monique Ryan#Corflute removal. GMH Melbourne (talk) 01:43, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]


    The European Destubathon

    [edit]

    Running the European Destubathon in April, nearly $3000 dollars to be won. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to do one for Oceania and Asia. Sign up if you feel like working on a few European articles during the month! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:28, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Good article reassessment for Alan Dale

    [edit]

    Alan Dale has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Automatic citations

    [edit]

    Is it just me or are automatic citations not working? Websites that usually work fine with it seem to be failing today. Kerry (talk) 04:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, the problem appears to be in Web2Cit. If you are not a Web2Cit user, everything should be ok. If you are a Web2Cit user, then untick the Web2Cit box in the "Cite Automatic" form and you will get normal Citoid behaviour (but without added benefit of your Web2Cit rules). I am trying to contact the developer to see what has changed with Web2Cit in the last day or so. Kerry (talk) 05:10, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    NB You have to actively turn on Web2Cit, so if you haven't heard of Web2Cit, then you probably aren't using it, so there is nothing to worry about. Kerry (talk) 05:12, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Good news! Web2Cit is working again. There was a MediaWiki update which broke it, but all is fixed now. Enjoy! If you are not a Web2Cit user, Web2Cit enables you to "train" Cite Automatic in how to cite your favourite websites (if plain old Citoid isn't working well enough for you). While it has some limitations (you can't get it to do everything you might want), it can do a lot of websites perfectly well or significantly reduce the effort for you by doing most of the citation fields for you. Kerry (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Good article reassessment for Steve Irwin

    [edit]

    Steve Irwin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Mosman, New South Wales#Requested move March 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mosman, New South Wales#Requested move March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 11:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Aberfeldie, Victoria#Requested move 31 March 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Aberfeldie, Victoria#Requested move 31 March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 07:27, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:75 Years of Friendship through Cricket Event#Requested move 7 March 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:75 Years of Friendship through Cricket Event#Requested move 7 March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 07:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Infigen Energy#Requested move 31 March 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Infigen Energy#Requested move 31 March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 08:56, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Ben Hunt (rugby league)#Requested move, 20, March 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ben Hunt (rugby league)#Requested move, 20, March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 09:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Cherrybrook, New South Wales#RM, 20 March, 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Cherrybrook, New South Wales#RM, 20 March, 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 09:30, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Scar tree at Wireless Hill

    [edit]

    Editorial opinions are requested at Talk:Wireless Hill Park#and/or on the wording of the usage of the scar tree. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:32, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Adelaide Lead, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Adelaide Lead, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:50, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Bakery Hill, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Bakery Hill, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. GMH Melbourne (talk) 01:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Adams Estate, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Adams Estate, Victoria#Requested move 2 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested moves per WP:NCAUST and [[WP::PRIMARYTOPIC]]

    [edit]

    I have significant concerns with the above requested moves relating to Victorian place names. While I have no objection to removing unnecessary disambiguation where there is clearly no place with the same or similar names, the nominations include far too many articles to allow for proper consideration and consensus where there is any doubt. Cases in point would be Badger Creek (disambiguation) and Smiths Beach, Western Australia, a relatively famous surf break in the Margaret River region which is at least as notable as Smiths Beach, Victoria. I have recommended withdrawal of these nominations and resubmission omitting any possibly contentious places in several of these discussions on the grounds that trying to discuss which to move and which to keep in such broad nominations will likely become a WP:TRAINWRECK and result in procedural keeps anyway. There may be a case here for broader discussion of WP:NCAUST? Dfadden (talk) 06:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Dfadden I agree. They should be done by people whose editing is focused on Victoria. Within the last 6 Weeks, I successfully requested a bunch of articles about places on Sydney's North Shore (And Northern Sydney) have unnecessary state names at the end removed and I did them all seperately just by copying pasting from previous RMS, and then correcting it for that RM. (A lot of my edits are on articles related to Sydney's North Shore, is there someone who is the same with country Victoria?) Servite et contribuere (talk) 17:02, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I might be that person. Viatori (talk) 01:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Dfadden Viatori There is another discussion here that I am concerned has possibility to become a WP:Trainwreck. I have already advised GMH Melbourne to stop. My main concern on that one is that Belrose should be done separately Servite et contribuere (talk) 07:13, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    While I am happy to consider the merits of each of these RMs, either in groups or individually, I do question the necessity of all the moves? WP:NCAUST states that Most Australian settlement articles are at Town, State/Territory; however, the name of a city or town may be used alone if the place is the primary or only topic for that name (bold is my emphasis). Most suggests that the norm is to use the Town, State/Territory format. Indeed, this has been the default for many years. This was pointed in the 2010 RM at Talk:Mosman, where interesting points was raised about status quo bias, as well as there being no formal consensus on how and when we should apply disambiguation. While we may use just the place name where the article meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, there is nothing that says we have to either. It makes sense for capital cities, or where names are so obviously unique that there is no question around primary topic, eg. Nar Nar Goon, Ulladulla etc. But I wonder if we are just creating work and problems for ourselves with the current appetite to move so many articles that vary from other towns by a single letter (Eg. Mosman vs Mossman, Queensland?) Perhaps a wiser (or at least more efficient) course of action would be to find consensus to resolve the ambiguity of WP:NCAUST's guidelines?
    Dfadden (talk) 08:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Dfadden Of ones I did make an RM, such as like Wahroonga (Schestos made the RM for Wahroonga but I requested if Schestos could make the RM for me as I was inexperienced on that at the time). Same with other places like Pennant Hills, Naremburn and others. Belrose and Castlecrag are clearly not a case of nothing else with the name and all other things named after or with a similar name Hence it should be done separately Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:33, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    My question is are we wasting time by raising RMs though? The guidelines at WP:NCAUST do not say we have to drop the disambiguation where an article is the only or primary topic. They only say we may. My view is it would be better to have a guideline that says "in situation X, you should do Y" rather than saying "in situation X, you may do Y" because that would be clear and unambiguous and save having to do so many RMs for back and forth discussion in the first place! Dfadden (talk) 08:47, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Dfadden Let's use an example: "There are no other places called Wahroonga, hence it doesn't need to be called Wahroonga, New South Wales and can be moved from Wahroonga, New South Wales to just Wahroonga but doesn't have to be". PS, I am aware this move was performed, but just imagine it like the title is still Wahroonga, New South Wales and not Wahroonga. This is just one of many examples I could have used but Wahroonga is where I was born so I used it as an example Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree, if there is no other place with the name of the article then just move it without the state/territory name. This does not include places with other words added in the title such as LGAs and electorates (e.g keep Wahroonga even though there is the electoral district of Wahroonga). Schestos (talk) 10:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • there was a general consensus that even though many places are primary topics, we dont move them without good cause. Thereasoning was trying to keep Australia places consistant and easy to find while avoid trainwrecks like Perth. Thimoving for sake of moving is just a bad idea better to hold onto some glimmer of being organised. Gnangarra 13:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Gnangarra "There was a general consensus [when?] and [where?] that even though many places are primary topics, we dont move them without good cause. The reasoning was trying to keep Australia places consistant and easy to find while avoid trainwrecks like Perth. Thimoving for sake of moving is just a bad idea better to hold onto some glimmer of being organised." Servite et contribuere (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Gnangarra When was the consensus? Read WP:NCAUST. You can't just make up that there was a consensus for this. You haven't provided any links to prove when the consensus happened Servite et contribuere (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • here [1], [2], and [3] there plenty more if you use the search function on our archives each has had the same conclusion for the last 20 odd years. Gnangarra 14:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        Thankyou Gnangarra. From what I see reading through those examples you have provided, this has long been and will likely remain a contentious issue. It has further reinforced to me that there is a problem with the wording of WP:NCAUST. ...the name of a city or town may be used alone if the place is the primary or only topic for that name leaves too much room for interpretation and individual preference and hurts consistency. It really needs to provide guidance on the exact circumstances where disambiguation is or is not necessary. I will pause any further page moves until this is resolved and strongly encourage others to do the same as all we are achieving here is making a mess of inconsistency! Dfadden (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        Dfadden When I moved a bunch of places, I made sure specifically they were done separately. I didn't even know about WP:Trainwreck at the time. I just make my RM'S through copy from viewing page history, paste then edit to make it correct Servite et contribuere (talk) 20:38, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        I am not criticising or suggesting you have done anything wrong. You have been very collaborative and i appreciate your communication. This is not about a single article. Instead, I am questioning why the moves requested by you and others including GMH Melbourne need to be made in the first place? It seems to come down to personal preference rather than clear policy. Some people think we should move the articles because they are the primary topic, others think we should not move them. It will continue to lead to arguments until we make the policy clearer. Dfadden (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        Dfadden And when I say: "Moved a bunch of places" I mean make an RM for a title Servite et contribuere (talk) 20:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Asking a quick favour of someone for whom Wayback Machine is working properly

    [edit]

    I still haven't got to the bottom of why WM has not been working for me for months (and too busy moving house at the moment to investigate). I can now see the pages , but every time I try to save something myself, it just says "save failed". If anyone would be so kind as to do a save of this Adelaide Fringe page, just to have a record of newly-published info, I would appreciate it. Not urgent. TIA! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    @Laterthanyouthink:  Done: [4] Fork99 (talk) 08:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks very much Fork99 - much appreciated. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Requested move at Talk:Acacia Gardens, New South Wales#Requested move 8 April 2025

    [edit]

    There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Acacia Gardens, New South Wales#Requested move 8 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:11, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Similar discussion are also taking place at:

    GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:13, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&oldid=1284966806"